and its civil rights speech. he was very slow to come forward on civil rights, but when he finally acted, that speech was brilliantly done and from the heart, and was really very impressive. so, you know, terribly sad that he couldn't have had that second term to see what else might have happened. but in a sense what he left us and what the public has to brace is the point we started with, 85% approval. people love him. he is the presidential he wrote of people's memories. >> you said something powerful. he grew your key did grow. he started off cerebral but gained confidence in leadership, and bobby kennedy group, too, from the brush mccarthy to some of the great compassion for people. what was in that odd upbringing with the incredibly ambitious father put been determined to succeed at all costs and the doting mother with all the kids that allowed these two men to grow? >> well, i think for bobby it was his brother's assassination. i think that was such a searing depressing experience for him, but it generated